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Sunday, January 29, 2012

Thanks for your readership...

Thank you, my readers, for your readership.  It looks like 2012 is shaping up to be an interesting year for this blog. 

Whether you are an avid supporter of naturopathic medicine, or an equally avid opponent, I welcome your questions, comments and suggestions.  Currently I'm having a hard time keeping up with monitoring comments and responding, so I apologize if there is a delay. 

As always, I will post any comments that provide reasonable questions or debate.  That said, I will not publish comments that are obvious personal attacks or provide no content whatsoever.  Come on, folks, lets keep it clean. 

I invite you to browse my past posts, especially my introduction.  Please feel free to ask questions and I will try my best to cover them in future posts. 

In Health,



At January 30, 2012 at 6:18 PM , Blogger Erika Krumbeck said...

Ironically, I accidentally deleted a commented left to me by "Anonymous". Here it is, in its totality:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Thanks for your readership...":

i.e. you won't post comments that are critical of ND education, being in deep denial apparently that you refuse to follow the MD's code of "first do no harm", that you care so little about your patients well being that you would rather take the easy route of mindlessly accepting ND "education" than pay attention to the comments on the Science Based Medicine blog. You'll label critique of ND as a personal attack rather than advice that you are being duped even if you are well meaning. Its sad that people will die because you are so scared of facing the possibility that you might be wrong and listening to people on that blog that actually know something about medicine. You'd rather feel good pretending you are going to be helping people than face the fact that you likely will be killing some of them.

At January 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM , Blogger Erika Krumbeck said...

And my response:

I am happy to publish any comment in critique of naturopathic medicine that allows for reasonable discourse. Unfortunately, saying I am a "quack" or that I am killing my patients does not really leave any room for discussion. In other words, please expand your argument: why am I a quack? Why am I killing my patients? I am happy to respond.

At January 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM , Blogger Julie said...

Hi Erika, have just discovered your blog and am enjoying very much. I would be interested to know your thoughts on this ... would you consider recommending any kind of "treatment" for a patient who has stopped and is avoiding aspartame in their diet and what would that be? Thank you so much for your time!

At January 31, 2012 at 4:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ScienceBasedMedicine blog you posted on continued to address the issue. You stopped responding.
You are being taught by a program that as they would put it is based on "woo", unscientific nonsense based on the placebo effect and an self-delusion. The claim that some subset of the curriculum isn't infected by that is highly questionable. You aren't being given the same scientific background to evaluate medical treatment as real doctors. Even many doctors struggle to evaluate what studies are good and what aren't. You won't now enough to know when to refer people to real medical practitioners. You wish to treat people, but you refuse apparently to do the hard work of getting an MD to now how to do it, or to take the route of learning to be a nurse (avoiding the woo based nursing programs). Instead you wish to inflate your ego by pretending to be a doctor while not actually knowing enough to be one.

The odds are incredibly high that you will kill patients by not referring them for proper treatment, whether you ever realize it or not.

At January 31, 2012 at 9:23 AM , Blogger Erika Krumbeck said...

Once again, there is not a whole lot for me to respond to here. I'm sorry that you feel that the entirety of my curriculum is based on "woo," as you state it. I'm not sure what you base that on (the inclusion of homeopathy in the curriculum? What else?) As I have stated earlier, my experience with my education is that the lectures I have attended have been heavily referenced by literature. Since I have no way of proving that to you, I'm not really sure where we are headed in this argument. I will note that we use the same reference material as medical doctors - (the Merck Manual, UpToDate, position statements by AAFP, AAP, USPSTF, etc), and refer our patients to specialists or imaging based on these guidelines.

Unfortunately, I just don't have time to address all the comments on the SBM blog right now. Forgive me, but I am still a full-time student, and graduating on time is a higher priority.

Please feel free to post comments - but being more specific would be helpful, otherwise I believe we will keep running around in circles as we have.

At January 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM , Blogger Erika Krumbeck said...

Hi Julie, thanks for reading.

I'm still a student, which means that I don't have a license to give medical advice. If you're interested in finding a naturopathic physician near you, I recommend checking out the the AANP website:, click on the link that says "find a doctor" and type in your zip code. Good luck!

At February 2, 2012 at 3:56 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any school that teaches homeopathy and the other woo they teach is run by people that do not understand science and the sort of critical thinking needed to safely practice medicine. Its like going to a school that teachers 2+2=5 and claiming that you are becoming a mathematician. There is a reason such schools exist.. there is a market for people not sharp enough to get into med school, find it cheaper than a real med school, or have been duped by woo themselves.

Yes, of couse you care less about the patients you would practice on that graduating to be able to make money off scamming them unintentionally (I'm assuming you are well meaning) and so graduating is a higher priority than discovering if you are competent to practice medicine and are wasting your time. If you want to help people, open up your mind to learning real science and become and ND or a science-based nurse.

At February 2, 2012 at 7:04 PM , Blogger Erika Krumbeck said...

I'm assuming that last sentence was meant to read "and become an MD".

At February 26, 2012 at 5:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Erika,

I just came across your blog while researching Bastyr University. I've recently been invited for an interview for the ND program which I am very excited about! I've started preparing but I was wondering if you would be able to give me some insight on the types of questions that I should expect.

Thank you so much for you time,


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